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If You Tell A Lie Often Enough Does It Become the Truth?

Posted by Just a Guy Posted on: 07/04/08

If You Tell A Lie Often Enough Does It Become the Truth?

Once again the willingness of the Republican National Committee, and apparently John McCain, to lie is astounding.

I'm not saying Democrats and their candidates don't ever lie, but the Repugs do it and then do it over and over until the brain washed masses start repeating it.

I had hoped McCain would be above it, but let's the latest ploy is showing his true colors and a willingness (as if I didn't know) to do what is necessary to get a few of those dropping poll numbers back. He has spent himself on touting his qualities so now all he can do is attack and try to drag his opponent down. I suppose we shoudl expect nothing less from a capaign that includes a member of the Swift Boat Veterans for "Truth". 

In the meantime, the Repugs are throwing out Obama's voting history on taxes. According to them Obama voted for tax increases 94 times.

The truth?

Non-partisan FactCheck.org, a source relied on by Cheney in the 2004 debate with John Edwards, has researched and found a slightly different set of facts.

Twenty-three were for measures that would have produced no tax increase at all; they were against proposed tax cuts.

Seven of the votes were in favor of measures that would have lowered taxes for many, while raising them on a relative few, either corporations or affluent individuals.

Eleven votes the GOP is counting would have increased taxes on those making more than $1 million a year - in order to fund programs such as Head Start and school nutrition programs, or veterans' health care.

The GOP sometimes counted two, three and even four votes on the same measure. We found their tally included a total of 17 votes on seven measures, effectively padding their total by 10.

The majority of the 94 votes - 53 of them, including some mentioned above - were on budget measures, not tax bills, and would not have resulted in any tax change. Four other votes were non-binding motions related to conference report negotiations.

It's true that most of the votes the GOP counts would either have increased taxes for some, or set budget targets calling for such increases. But by repeating their inflated 94-vote figure, McCain and the GOP falsely imply that Obama has pushed indiscriminately to raise taxes for nearly everybody. A closer look reveals that he's voted consistently to restore higher tax rates on upper-income taxpayers but not on middle- or low-income workers. That's consistent with what he's said he'd do as president, which is to raise taxes only on those making more than $250,000 a year.

Analysis

In a June 9 press release, Tucker Bounds, spokesman for Sen. John McCain's campaign said that "during just three years in the U.S. Senate, Barack Obama has already voted 94 times for higher taxes." The same day, the RNC, which researched Obama's votes and is the original source of the claim, issued its own release, saying "Obama Voted At Least 94 Times For Higher Taxes" and that he had voted "For A Tax Increase Approximately Once Every Five Days Congress Has Been In Session." A few days later, McCain adviser Douglas Holtz-Eakin and other campaign staffers repeated the charge, which was quoted in various news stories. We suspect we'll be hearing this figure a lot more as the campaign wears on.

If this type of claim sounds familiar, it's because George W. Bush's campaign used a similar refrain against John Kerry in 2004, charging that Kerry voted for "higher taxes" a whopping 350 times. We found that claim to be incorrect as well. This time around, Republicans are using some of the same tricky accounting to beef up the number of votes. " www.factcheck.org

Up until 2000 I would have laughed about this kind of politicing but that election and the atrocious one in 2004 showed how easily the public is misled. It still amazes me that they actually believe some of the stuff spewed from the mouth of the smear machine.

 


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  • Titania Jones
    04 Jul 03:08
    Unfortunately,for Republicans and Democrats the Bush tax cuts which actually allowed small and medium sized businesses to thrive, and low income people to pay less in taxes than they did in the Clinton administration, is not really feasible to continue according to several experts. Congress and the Executive Branch are faced with two choices curbing spending, will mean cuts in programs. Or reducing the tax breaks, to small and medium sized business, is basically the same as a tax increase because they won't have as much in tax breaks. Democrats are in favor of more social programs and spending, Republicans less government. Democrats consistently vote for more tax increases. Mr. Obama got an F, by the National Tax Payers Union. I know someone who made 180 thousand last year, and paid 100 thousand in taxes. that is awful. He lives in an apartment. He went without pay many times to keep his company functioning well, pays off old debt from when he chose low pay to keep his company

  • Just a Guy
    04 Jul 18:34
    While I certainly appreciate the amount of work you put into your opinions I am a small businessman and have not found anything that the Bush regime has done to be of benefit to me. The Repugs are fantastic at cutting taxes and beefing up subsidies but the only ones who really benefit are the large corporations. If the little guy had more money in his pocket, and I'm not talking about a few hundred dollars from an economic stimulus check, everyone would benefit. However, when Exxon is pocketing monster profits and we're paying better than four bucks a gallon everyone who is below the rich level suffers.

  • James
    06 Jul 00:41
    I just don't understand Americans these days...call me nostalgic (nostalgic!) but weren't we once the kinds of people who fought against this kind of thing? And I'm not saying we should take to the streets with home made weapons and knock around the clerk at the Exxon sponsored mini-mart, but surely we're bright enough to organize a formal people's embargo against companies that piss us off. I don't think complacency is working, and meanwhile it seems everyone's getting paid but us. Maybe it's eon-ic karma returning to us for some awful deed of our ancestors ancestors. Or maybe it's meant to be ironic that the heralds of self-determination and truth and prosperity are really just a flock of fat, lazy sheep, lost in our fur, living the dream before brutal reality calls to remind us there's a price for everything. I dunno...thoughts?

  • Steve Dupont
    07 Jul 20:19
    If you ask me, both parties are selling our country up the river (to corporate/global interests), just in different ways. In the case of Bush and the GOP over the past 7 years, they're just flat-out looting everything, printing fiat money, giving it to the corporations and letting them buy up all the real assets with it while the average schmuck is left holding the bag. Dems on the other hand tend to be a little more artful, publicly scorning the corporations and then funneling money to them on the sly. But if you talk about government spending, the GOP is king. No question about it. Our debt was pretty much flat until Reagan and then it doubled. Under bush it's up -- what? -- 300-400% so far? Nine trillion or thereabouts? We're so screwed it's not funny.

  • Steve Dupont
    07 Jul 20:24
    Specifically on the issue of lies in the campaign though -- sadly, it's proved time and time again to work, so why would they stop now? Most people don't go to factcheck.org -- or read political blogs -- they just see the commercials on the TV and it reinforces what they've already been conditioned to think about democrats -- from thousands of previous campaign ads -- so they don't question it. People don't want to pay more taxes to our corrupt government, and who can blame them?

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